I agree with you Dr Turnoi Turjakuunnen, it depends on people who will go to the ESL camps in the world there are camps that are good and there are some that are not that good. Honestly, I had a friend of mine that went to ALV Taiwan back in 2013 and he told me that the staff in ALV was not good and they made false promises to him that they could not even keep I was told that If I ever join an organization like this is to be careful I would get a surprise of my life and especially the atmosphere will be very dirty my friend stan was shocked when he taught in a southern area in taiwan and the place was not good and very dirty..