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kenny - 2015-08-03
In response to Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China (The Truth)

It looks like I had a lucky escape. If I had seen these threads before I applied to Yuncheng EV, I would not have wasted my time. See below my recent email log with 'Helen' from EV. I applied to their advert on Daves Cafe as it mentioned 'paid summer and winter holidays'. When I received their crappy contract it was nowhere to be seen. She even had the temerity to deny it despite it being in their advertisement for all to see. Quite clearly out and out crooks. AVOID Yuncheng EV and its associated aliases.

helen <chineselifebegin@126.com>
To:
Kenneth ***** <*****>
Subject:
Re:Re: Teaching Position
Date:
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Dear Kenneth:

The AD said we pay holiday is 1000 RMB for one month,no classes,while have travelling fee,while it is ok,wish you have a good future.

Regards.

Helen.

At 2015-08-02 18:48:19, "Kenneth *****" <*****> wrote:
Helen

Thank you for your email.

After careful consideration I am sorry I cannot accept your offer.

The salary is simply too low, you don't even offer salary for winter vacation which is a Chinese National Holiday. Every single job I have had in China so far has paid that without question.

I am also concerned that in your initial advert you said 'paid winter and summer vacation'. In your contract you offer simply 1,000rmb travelling allowance so it appears dishonest before things even get started.

Regards

Kenneth *****

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015, at 09:54 AM, helen wrote:
Dear Kenneth:

I talked to our school headmaster,because there are almost 20 foreign teachers in Yuncheng EV,we have a good team and everybody enjoyed the same salary,noboday can be different from others,.while your contract can be converted to 22 classes per week,enjoy 6500 RMB month salary.Ccerning to 22 this number,maybe you just have 20 or even just 19 classes per week.

Waiting for your reply,if it is ok,I will arrange your Chinese visa to enter to China very soon.

Regards.

Helen.

At 2015-07-31 19:59:24, "Kenneth *****" <********> wrote:
Hi Helen

As I explained my resident permit expired yesterday 30th July. It was issued for one month past my contract expiration date. So I have to start whatever process again.

I am still considering your contract. The fact you do not pay for winter vacation is very poor. Even at my last University I got paid for that and also I would be looking for at least 6,500rmb for 20 classes. I got 7,000rmb for 16 classes last year.

Just to compare I am also in contact with another school in Yuncheng who offers a higher 6,500rmb plus full salary for Winter and Summer if I renew. Not saying I would renew (or they might not wish to) but they are offering it.

I will think about it and let you know but at the moment your contract looks like a poor deal compared to the other.

Kenneth

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, at 04:49 PM, helen wrote:
Dear Kenneth :

Winter holiday is one month,no classes,no salary,while you can get 1000RMB for winter holiday traveling fee.

You will work in Yuncheng No.3 middle school,in Yuncheng city,20 classes per week ,45 mins per class,my school apartment is better than other schools,a private apartment with one kitchen ,one living room,one bedroom,one bathroom .apartment pics will be taken by tomorrow .

Concerning to your resident permission,when will your expire?except all of you mentioned,need the cancelation letter from Jiangsu province.if everything is ready,I can do transfer your FEC when you arrived.pls email me your resident permission scanner and FEC paper.

Regards.

Helen.
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在2015年07月31日 16:37,Kenneth ***** 写道:
Hi Helen

Thank you for your reply.

Just a few questions regarding the contract.

Your advert say "Paid Winter and Summer vacation". You contract says no salary for the holidays. 1000rmb travelling allowance. Which is correct?

Your advert mentions 20 class hours, classes are 45 minutes long. How many lessons would I teach in a week?

Where is the exact schools location? Is it in Yuncheng city or elsewhere?

Could you send me pictures of the apartment that I would be moving into. (Not another 'example').

I have just finished in Jiangsu province. I returned home to the UK. My resident permit expired whilst I was home. I do however have my FEC book, release letter and such. What else would you need? I don't really want to be going on a Hong Kong trip to change my visa. If I applied for a tourist visa it would only be for thirty days anyway.

Thanks. Awaiting your responses.

Kenneth

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, at 02:48 PM, helen wrote:
Dear Kenneth:

I am happy to got your application to be teacher in our school.Our school is located in Yuncheng,Shanxi province,you will teach in a public middle school,not a private one,your students are 15 years old,your task is speaking and listening ,you also will have a Chinese assistant who can help you to prepare teaching plan and keep class discipline .

I have sent the official contract and some pics ,pls find in my attached.if you have any further questions,pls let me know.

Best regards.

Helen

发自网易邮箱大师
在2015年07月31日 12:45,Kenneth ***** 写道:
Hello

I am inerested in your advertised vacancy.

Could you send me more details of the position and a sample contract? I only teach grades 10 and above. No children.

Regards

Kenneth

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