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TS - 2015-07-31

I had posted:

Please be fully aware that the tightening up of the visa rules has empowered you. In the backwater where you will be teaching, you are a big fish in a small pond. It will be very difficult for the school to replace you quickly following the recent changes to the visa rules.

Don't take any shit from them re your teaching. Private schools can sometimes be be a pain in the neck in this regard! I'm not saying that that school will be, but be ready to counter-attack if necessary. That's why many FTs avoid teaching at private schools in China. Public schools tend to be more easy-going as employers, and their students are more respectful of foreigners, and easier to teach.

Your reply was:

I also note your comments, I'm not sure why I need to be worried about being replaced. At the end of the day that is the schools problem not mine. I was candid and informed them that I can only stay one year due to continuing my studies. About the private school thing, based on my own research and contact with a former FT they do not appear to follow the language mill method at all, no dancing monkeys at this school.

I will clarify:

Some private schools control greatly what the FT teaches. They insist that the FT bases his lesson on a particular textbook. And in China textbooks can be full of mistakes even though they are so-called British English textbooks, for example. Private schools will sometimes force the FT to teach oral English exclusively. Not easy when some classes comprise mainly students of low ability. If you don't teach well, you may be dismissed by a private school in the middle of a semester. Much less chance of a public school dismissing you then for said reason. And public schools generally let you teach as you like. Some of them even ask you to teach listening instead of oral during most of each class, as they know the students cannot or do not want to speak English. That is so easy for the FT to do. Many students regard the FT's class as unimportant because there is no oral English test in the Chinese college entrance exam. I don't know what made you think I was talking about language mills or private training schools. Like you, I am not in favor of FTs coming across in class as dancing monkeys, but at private schools like the one you intend to teach at, that would not be tolerated in any case. Your teaching reputation is likely to depend mainly on what your students say about you. Sometimes, earnest FTs whose lessons are a bit hard are in danger of being dismissed, while FTs who enliven classes by making students laugh while teaching next to nothing in terms of English are deemed good FTs.

It's clear from your posts that you are an arrogant newbie who has taken it upon yourself to defend a private school that has been looking for two new FTs out of three. The carrot of full summer holiday pay hasn't worked there. You are very trustful of that Chinese employer. Anyway, what I've said is probably of more interest to some of our fellow readers. That's why I do not regret composing this longish reply.

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Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-17
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-24
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- someone -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- steve -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- steve -- 2015-07-31
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- San Migs -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-07-31
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-08-01
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-08-01
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-08-02
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-08-02
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- kenny -- 2015-08-03
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- ROXYINCHINA -- 2015-08-03
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- San Migs -- 2015-07-30
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-29
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- MarkHarrison -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Walter -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Walter -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- San Migs -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Andrew -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- TS -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Andrew -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- FT2 -- 2015-07-28
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Andrew -- 2015-07-28
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Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-26
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Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-07-24
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Phil88 -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- San Migs -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-26
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- martin hainan -- 2015-07-27
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Stewart -- 2015-07-25
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-18
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Chris -- 2015-07-18
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- The Truth -- 2015-07-18
Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- Chris -- 2015-07-19
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Re Rubbish Yuncheng Middle School, China -- San Migs -- 2015-07-19
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