You are the one trying to make this an 'Us vs. Them" situation.

I have disagreed with Veloce, but we managed to actually calmly discuss the point, rather than resort to childish, personal insults or identity/qualification accusations, something you seem unable to do.

Going purely on what I have seen and how posters conduct themselves, I would rather have a thousand Somebodys or Veloces consider themselves my 'ally' than one poster like you or CT whose only weapon in their debating arsenal is to insult people and throw up countless strawman arguments to detract fron your own failings, contradictions and hypocrisy.