So we're losers are we?

I think that this claim is coming from somebody who works in the private sector of ESL and appears to be losing their temper, therefore throwing their toys out of the pram; therefore we'll take that with a pinch of salt. We've seen many a private training centre boss behave in exactly the same manner when they been utterly ridiculed and destroyed on this website.

Having experience in China doesn't automatically make you some kind of winner. You're still in the ESL field, which means that other expatriates will laugh at you. If your experience constitutes eight years of scamming foreign teachers, customers and the education sector as a whole, it is worth nothing.

Not to mention that Turnoi would probably be all too happy to tell you about his work experience and has even given proof on the site of his published work in the past. You can say what you want about him, positive or negative; but if you are going to call him 'inexperienced,' he'll happily correct you.