Thank you!!

I won't go into this, because I promised another poster on these boards I would let it go.

Please, respectfully, can we just drop this.

This Guangzhou college of Commerce is one university to stay well clear of guys there are
nothing but liars and backstabbing arsehole.

That is not only guangzhou, but China as an entity.

This story is not reported properly. "Professor Ozzie" -Mervyn J. Edwards is a fraud. His "degrees" come from online stores, not from universities-this is triple confirmed with official government websites and staff. Edwards has a criminal background and no education. He has been fired from several universities in China for breaking laws and rules. He tried to buy a young girl in a recent firing and was expelled for "immorality". He is totally and utterly insane, claiming that he is an English prince who is not subject to any laws of China. He claims that he can call the queen and arrange for a firing squad for his enemies, and so on. Edwards claims to be a genius but after perhaps 7 years in China he cannot even handle his numbers in Chinese. He shows no indication of higher levels of intelligence whatsoever but he is not stupid-he is a high functioning sociopath and psychopath. Edwards proudly and publicly proclaims that he is writing two books about "psychopathic killers", a subject which he is very proud to enjoy and relish.

Edwards uses his class time to preach war, violence, killing, and hatred of Americans. Edwards claims that there is now a nuclear war in effect caused by Americans. Edwards uses banned videos in his classes to preach war and death, calling it "world peace". Edwards believes that his "wife" is unable to get supplies and gas dues to the war caused by Americans. The "wife" is a woman in the Philippines not actually married to Edwards. Edwards was arrested in the airport trying to force air carriers to carry gas and canned foods to his "wife" due to the war that does not exist.

Edwards proclaims that he wants to "put a bullet in Obama's head" and that he wants all Americans to die in a nuclear war. Edwards has violent rages blaming all of his personal problems on Americans. He believes that Americans injured him in the past and all must now pay for his injuries and for the problems that his "wife" is having due to the "war". The management of the university was informed many times about Edwards and his mental problems, but the university Dean did nothing until a few days before the incident, when the Dean scolded Edwards and made Edwards more angry and upset, more violent, and more insane. There is only one American in the program and in the building; the teacher known as Paul, who was forced to share an office with Edwards despite several requests to move. Paul only went to the office 15 minutes before classes and departed immediately after classes to avoid conflict with the madman Edwards.

The police reports will support that Edwards brutally and violently attacked the teacher known as Paul after blocking the doorway so that Paul could not escape. It was early in the morning before classes and no one was present to help Paul, who had told the Deans and staff that he was in fear for his life and well-being on several occasions prior. Paul had been living in fear for his life and well-being for several weeks prior to the incident and the Deans and staff refused to do anything about the problem, though they acknowledged that Edwards is totally crazy. Edwards had violent fist and kick fights with students on at least two occasions when Edwards felt that he was not being respected enough by the students. The management did nothing about it.

Edwards stated that because of the war caused by Americans, Edwards could not see his "wife" who was suffering in the Philippines. Edwards was disheveled, unshaven, enraged, and murderous-in a violent rage, stating that he "could not control himself" and that all Americans must die for all of the wars and for the trouble caused to his "wife". Paul was in fear for his life, he tried to escape but he could not get out of the office. Paul showed the knife and ordered Edwards to get back, but Edwards was not afraid of the knife and aggressively attacked. Paul used the knife for "justified self defense", one small poke to the chest area, which caused a "light" wound according to the police records. It was exactly enough to repel Edwards. Edwards departed and was seen by a student on the way down the stairs. The student had no conflict whatsoever with Paul, in fact, the student gave Paul sweet bread and water and told him to calm down because Edwards had departed the building.

All students and staff at the college know that Edwards is totally insane and inclined to violence and that he often proclaims his hatred toward Americans and the USA. In the end Edwards did not want to go to the Court and be exposed in his fraud and lies and be deported for 10 years so he took 15,000 RMB in full compensation for the injury and Paul was allowed to go about his business. Paul was not arrested because he did not commit a crime. The evidence supporting Paul was overwhelming and was supported by many witnesses. The money was paid because under Chinese self defense laws, if one party is injured and the other is not, especially if one uses a weapon, then the non-injured party is expected to pay some money as compensation.

The problem in this incident is that the Dean, who is very old and totally incompetent in every way, did not take 5 minutes to investigate or confirm Edwards' credentials or qualifications. The Dean had waited until the last minute to fill a position, and classes were already in session and the Dean had not hired a teacher Then Edwards showed up and agreed to work without a contract until papers could be prepared. Edwards simply was there when the Dean needed a foreign face to put in the classroom. It was the easiest solution to the Dean's problem at that time and the university is remote and not an especially pleasant place, very difficult to get teachers to stay there.

Now, all of Edwards frauds and false claims have been exposed and Edwards will be moving on his way. He is not qualified to teach in a real program. He is not a teacher. He claims that he has important business with President Xi and the Defense Minister and that these men will handle the punishment of terrible Paul and also conduct "the war" according to Edwards' genius strategy which will leave the USA in ruins. Edwards also states that his story will be in every newspaper and on CCTV and so on, and he proclaims that the queen and the royal family will be prosecuting Paul by way of extradition to England, where Paul will be hanged or put to death by lethal injection for daring to injure a royal personage. Edwards avoids the Australian Embassy very strongly-wonder why? The university and the police planned to turn him into the AFP for some criminal matters that Edwards has hanging.

Now that the matter is settled, maybe Edwards will travel to your town and set up his little shop of horrors-Americans beware!

I mentioned that there are 4 bogus credentials that I know of held by foreign teachers in my past 4 employers. I don't see how that cannot be construed as a problem with the vetting of foreign teachers. Although I do often belabor the obvious, in this instance I did not.

Elementary schools in the U.S. are notorious for hiring maintenance staff who have prior sex-offender status. I would not suggest pedophile employees who managed to dupe the school administration with bogus resumes shouldn't "shoulder all of the blame" for obtaining a job working with children. In my view, personal responsibility for illegal and/or immoral behavior is not mitigated by institutional incompetence.

China doesn't need or want me to apologize for it. Neither does the U.S. I love the people of both countries and I despise a variety of political chicanery and aggressive international behavior of both governments. The distinction in my on-line and personal communication about both countries is my lifetime of participation and observation of the U.S. as a citizen and my brief experience living in China handicapped by my relative ignorance of Chinese culture and society due to my horrendous Chinese language abilities and my puerile U.S. education.

I don't often engage in conversations in this forum. I do thank you for your thoughts and insight on the Ozzie situation. It's a rare pleasure to have a reasonable and informed interaction here. I recognize that it is quite possible that the 'American' involved in the Ozzie event is a violent, equally non-credentialed rascal.

I thank you for an excellent response. I hope that those who would dismiss your postings in a very rude manner take note. I've had posters reply to my posts with a single word, "rubbish". Despite this I have pursued my argument further because I have known I was in the right. I received no apologies or counter arguments. Still, what can you do? At the end of the day, the truth is still the truth.

Splitting hairs in my view was when you tried to differentiate between a resume and an introduction. Yes, Ozzie is a definite rotter. But the American may not be one.

You haven't mentioned that there is also a problem with the vetting of applicants' credentials. And in Ozzie's case, he managed to slip through the safety net because of woeful checking of his credentials. So, in my view Ozzie shouldn't shoulder all the blame. I would blame the Chinese for allowing themselves to be so easily duped. Some might say you are a China apologist because of this. But your view may differ from mine, fair enough.

As for your credentials allowing you to pick and choose, that's very good. But not every laowai who wants to teach has good enough credentials to do as you can. I'm including myself in the latter group, just to let readers know I'm no snob, and I know next to nothing about literature, and I don't want to, either.

I agree with you that it's a terrible thing that many dishonest laowai have managed to cheat the vetting procedure re submiiting fake credentials. The places where I've worked nobody among the foreign teachers has been a PhD, real or fake, simply because they wouldn't be on big bucks should they be real or so-called foreign experts as opposed to ordinary foreign teachers.

Actually, what you have described could be just about true of any college or university in China. I too was physically threatened outside my classroom by another foreign teacher with very dubious qualifications, who had a long history of physically threatening other people. I weighed up the options to deal with the situation, both at the time and afterwards. Clearly telling the university would achieve nothing; it would only serve to blacken my name. If I had fought him and won, it would be I who would be looked upon as violent and not had my contract renewed, despite defending myself from an obvious assault. If I had actually been assaulted I doubt the judicial process would protect me.

In the end, I was advised to ask the university subtly if he was a Manager, because he seemed to be dictating what I should do and how I should behave. This turned out to be well thought out advice. The university, as predicted by my Chinese advisor, got more upset when they thought he was trying to manage staff above the heads of the actual Heads of the university. It was this that irked the university more than anything and he wasn't asked to return the following term.

Perhaps he is Sancho to our Australian Don Quixote. If so, I apologize for giving him short shrift. I admit to being mesmerized by our Ozzie's perilous plight.

Some of the stuff Professor Ozzie posted would never have been posted by a real professor. I found the whole thread to be marvellously entertaining, enhanced by your irony.
However, my hilarity was somewhat tempered by my realisation that the college FAO and the Provincial Education Department were both much too easily duped by Ozzie because neither had realized that a PhD unaccompanied by no other academic qualification(s) of at least university degree level was an impossibility. Unforgivable! Hence Ozzie got a Foreign Expert Certificate and was let loose on the college's students.

Finally, let me say I'm sure that if you were seeking employers to contact you by means of posting a short introduction online, you would surely mention you had a university degree if indeed you had one. A no-brainer, isn't it! So we needn't split hairs between short online introductions and online resumes.

Let's remember: this is an alleged assault. The allegations are from a person of, well, er, it's Ozzie.

Yes, you are right. Maybe you have forgotten, I said that in my initial post on the thread.

And I'm afraid to imagine what I might do if I was in an enclosed space with Ozzie for any length of time,

Even so, I wouldn't expect you to resort to physical violence.

How about the credentials of the alleged knifer? I take it he has a university degree. I think that should be essential for foreign teachers employed by Chinese universities. Please analyse his resume and inform us about that. You have already analysed Professor Ozzie's online resume. I feel you should do likewise regarding the American's online resume.

You have certainly hit the nail on the head, now will the OP confirm this is indeed said thug?

Been e-mailed that the link doesn't work using Firefox. So, here it is, minus the photo!

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Either way it is quite plain for all to see....Guangzhou really does attract a motley crew of
deadlegs and ne'er do wells.

I recall Silverboy saying in an old post that one should be wary of laowai in China. He reckoned that some of them became unhinged and dangerous to fellow laowai, due to being unable to accept the culture of China. He liked to frequent places such as night clubs and bars where many laowai like to hang out. He said he was in more danger from laowai in China than he was from the Chinese.

Having met some Americans in China, I will venture to suggest that they are the ones most likely to become violent, as Americans are raised in a society that pays little attention to what's going on internationally, and so many of them will get a huge negative culture shock when living in China.

That nurse's bell, though likely a symptom of dementia, should be a treasured reminder to nod quietly instead of giving voice to your inane Aussie arrogance when younger and stronger individuals are present. The days when you could outrun the damage of your rudeness have long since passed. I do sympathize that you went through childhood bearing that name and I thank you for the entertainment that your plight has provided readers of this forum.

In an email received by Professor Ozzie stating the Guangzhou Commercial College has made
serious allegation upon Professor Ozzie teaching credentials.

There is nothing serious about claiming a PhD from a university that does not exist: Kingsbridge University.
It is unfortunate that the assailant's knife had serious credentials.

http://www.leaderiedu.org/page/Default.asp?ID=1563&PageID=1

Yes we were both alone in the teacher's office at the time of the attack but in full view of the 4 surveillance cameras pointed towards the teacher's office.

Information was relayed to Professor Ozzie that the video evidence from the four hallway surveillance cameras had been deleted to save the Guangzhou Commercial College from further embarrassment about the attack upon Professor Ozzie’s life.

Another report relayed to Professor Ozzie the following day. Professor Hu, the acting Dean of the Guangzhou Commercial College at the time of the attack; had turned off the surveillance cameras for his own privacy. This being the case Professor Hu showed gross misconduct in safety towards his staff and towards all the students under his care.

The Chinese will never change, anything and everything makes them lose face. So a psycho who stabbed a foreign teacher at that college, was released by the police, and ALLOWED back by this chinese professor.This dangerous foreign teacher should not have even been allowed back on the campus, with instructions for him to be removed and reported to the police if found on campus.Reminds me of a case I heard in Shenzhen, where a foreigner who was sleeping with a chinese women who omitted to tell said foreigner she had a crazy chinese husband, was forced to move out in a week due to the psycho wanting to kill him with a kitchen knife....the police said they could do nothing, and it was HIS fault for sleeping around, as Chinese NEVER do this, and it is only immoral westerners (sic!). Meanwhile, ktv's and one woman whore houses act with impunity.....

The dispute broke out in the foreign teacher’s office Guangzhou Commercial College, when Professor Ozzie made a comment defending his family. The attacking foreign teacher Paul Howard Crown took offence to Professor Ozzie’s comments pulling out a flick knife from his pocket stabbing Professor Ozzie in the chest. Mr Crown took Professor Ozzie’s comment as a threat to kill him; Professor Ozzie was unarmed at the time of the attack and had no intentions of ever wanting to kill or harm Mr Crown in any way.

Were you and the American alone in the foreign teacher's office at the time of the (alleged) attack?