i know there are so of you that do not like me coming on here because I do not drink your hate for China kool aid and suggest that there is a variety of experiences out there for different people.

I don't care how many times you come on here. I can't tell you what to do or what to say. It's up to you to think responsibly. The "hate for China" kool aid metaphor shows how absolutely naive and unbelievably dull you are to bad situations. If anything I can say to you that you drank the "good china" kool aid. I don't follow an opinion blindly. I look at and compare the experiences of others to that of myself. From the reactions such as those of you I can pretty much come to the conclusion that you don't see the big picture well enough and realize you cannot change anything by yourself. By pretending to me a "mediary" you only scare off those who want to come and post their real experiences. I can honestly say that expats in china are not united at all in any sense of the way due to our diverse, international backgrounds. You're lack of effort to find common ground with others and continue to preach what you preach without giving any solutions only shows how hollow your supposed "side" of the opinion is. You see our side of the story as propaganda, which I can only say I will gladly reciprocate back to you.

The way you trivialize others' experiences is downright insulting and incredibly undermining to the mutual trust and cooperation that the expat community should have.

I do not come on and say drink, bang naive young woman and generally make an arse out of yourself because that is not my goal in life,nor do I think that others have that same passion. Of course there are some that only want to do that and they are welcome to that kind of degenerate lifestyle if it so pleases them.

Neither did I. I challenge you to go back to any of my posts that I have EVER MADE (not that you will, because from earlier discussions I can tell you won't make the effort) any comments about going promiscuous towards chinese women. There are some people on the boards who have a more "loose" by world standards of behavior regarding the topic of sex. I am not one of them. I only support my fellow teachers with my own experiences and compare them with theirs.

I can only imagine that something truly bad happened to you while in China Dragonized to make you hate this place so much but I am curious if you will ever let it go and move on or have you made it your mission in life to constantly suck out any postivity in regards to China.

I have some stories to share with you Kevin. The first one is that of a friend of mine who is African American. No matter where he goes in the world he will face worse discrimination on a general scale than I would face. He comes from a broken family and he doesn't have a good relationship with his siblings. However when I met him in china no matter what he would always tell his students about his city, his respective enclave's culture, and Dr. Martin Luther King and the life he led to fight racial segregation. Then on a broader scale there are people who are ethnically chinese who got out of the country due to the political/social/cultural/psychological oppressions that were brought on them by chinese society. Yet these folks (and I know a few personally), although they may face racism in their new host/adopted country, will still not think about going back to china. Why? Because of the new, better life provided to them by their new respective countries. They will say the same things, even worse things, about china than I have said. I look at these people and it brings me to better terms on my family immigrating to the USA and making a life for themselves. No we don't hate, it is because we love life and want to see what's right being done that we do this.

The is no "mission" your jingoistic, tacky usage of vocabulary would suggest. I wish only to see the right thing done. If there is ANY ENTITY SUCKING THE POSITIVES OUT OF CHINA it is the private education sector that has ruined the experiences of so many honest, idealistic teachers who only want to come to china to learn more about her. Yet we come away with learning "nothing" which in fact is the nothing that this culture entails.