i've been reading the posted blogs regarding the said company and i myself agree with evrybody except johan's blog that are all lies.i worked in the same company like them. working in the said company you need to work like a machine and you can't earn money. why? the company is corrupt. and watch out for lucy she steal your money when it's pay day especially those who are working in the other cities, lucy takes a small percentage of your money before sending it so when you recieve there's missing that maggie called it as deductions.

beware of maggie coz she portrays an angelic face but she is a devil. she will tell you a lot of good things will happen but it's all lies. she just wanna use you and at the end she will destroy you.

beware of miss WANG, when she talks to you she will tell you that they control evrybody like the police and authorities, that they are not afraid coz they have connection with them. those are all lies. she just want to scare you not to go and report them to the police. another thing, they are set teachers against each other. i'll give you an exmple: they will tell you something bad that according to them another teacher told them, that bad issue regarding them or the company. they will try you,thats how they use their power. just don't trust anyone in the office.

I have been reading all your posts. I worked for tianshuo for a little more than a year, how dumb was I to believe they would cancel my visa, and that they would put the police on me. But those were all lies. lets name them:

MAGGIE
MAMA WANG
LUCY
(and KIKI who is in jail now, because they bailed mama wang but they didn't bail her out)

I had to leave china and get a new visa again, this time with a working permit and an invitation letter, so read carefully : DONT TRUST ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU TO COME TO CHINA JUST WITH A TOURIST VISA AND THEY WILL CHANGE TO A WORKING ONE THERE. IT IS A LIE: in order to work LEGALLY in china you MUST have an invitation letter and working permit, this last one is only provided by each province's government, and no one else.

I have seen it all: tianshuo went from having more than 150 teachers to have less than 10 at the present day. Why? lies, lies, and more lies. I have been refused to get my salary, and to get my passport back. I had to call my embassy. Everything was broken in those sewer-stinky apartments, and for god's sake never ever trust chinese handymen. Nevertheless, I have seen hard-working easy-going adult people (+60 yrs old) getting f*cked around by these people for months, even years. I have seen how those assistants they hire for no longer than 3 months do all the dirty work for them, and when you go to complain to the boss, they all dissapear (including the boss).

Ill cut the crap:

I never got a full schedule, not even 20 hours a week.
I never got a full salary, they would be always stealing money from me.
I never got that famous "release letter".
When I left, they chased me around the city saying that I owed them money (regardless of the fact that they didn't pay me my last salary).
and so much other crap that I don't want to remember.

be aware of your chances before coming to work in china.

Just a correction, I'm still very much connected with this company but can't wait to get the hell out of here. The future has become bleaker than how it's ever been. Another correction, the faces of the people who run this company are in no way "angelic" but rather "demonic". Their faces are horrible much more their attitudes and motives. And those people who feed on their evil plans and connive with them are no greater than dogs. Oh, im sorry...atleast dogs can be trusted..they could be your bestfriends...but "these people"...nahhh they will eat you alive. To my fellow foreign teachers who are still working for this company, BEWARE with these people whose initials are: V, L, J, B and others whose faces are hard to trust by the first sight of them.

Trev, Kaye and Girly are but a few of my colleagues who had been with Tianshuo and dared to be heard by this forum. I STRONGLY AGREE! This company offers a very promising salary of 4000-7000 rmb, good accommodation, & even refers itself as "your second home" to its recruits but mind you ...everything is a LIE! Heaps and thousands of lies! Dont ever dare or risk stepping in the lobby of the 21st Century Building in Changchun (where their office is located). Beware of recruiters named Michelle, Christina, Theresa...they are all one and the same MAGGIE or KIKI. Beware of their angelic faces and sweet, convincing words. I'm talking from experience: they will try their best to persuade you but after you signed and let them process your visa, you will wonder why on earth will they deprive you of your passport afterwards? I pity the Tianshuo personnel! How ignorant of them not to know the very basic RIGHT to hold your legal document. And how they manage to refer their company as the highest accredited by the Foreign Affairs Bureau in Jilin Province??? You will have a hard time- really hard time getting it back even until you finish your contract ( of course because they used it for some car deals with their Japanese friends). Then they will let you live in a "pigpen" and from there you will get the shock of you life in China! I may say Tianshuo has become mentally incapacitated for its greed for money! SO TO ALL FOREIGN TEACHERS OUT THERE, BEWARE OF THE OPPORTUNIST-MONEY SUCKING TIANSHUO COMPANY IN JILIN PROVINCE! IT'S THE WORST AMONG THE WORSE!

I totally agree with Trev and Girly. This company known as Tianshuo which is located in Changchun is nothing but a threatening and blood-sucking company. It's best interest is to make money out of their poor teachers. The salary this company give (which is 2500 RMB)is the lowest ever given in Jilin, if not the whole China. One thing this company do, which i dread the most, is them holding the passport of their teachers. For the information of the people who run this company: YOU HAVE NO ANY RIGHT OF WHATEVER SORT TO KEEP OR WITHHOLD PASSPORTS nor USE THOSE PASSPORTS TO BUY CARS FROM JAPAN. Another thing that i also dread is what a significant number of teachers do just to gain the confidence of the company at the expense of their fellow countrymen/teachers. This number kisses "asses" to the extent of putting other teachers in an uncompromising situation JUST to get more DAQIAO classes. Each DAQIAO class is worth 35 RMB. Of course, Daqiao Foreign Language School pays high. Tianshuo gets more.

As of now, many teachers are still "school-less" and are crowding at 21st. Four of five people sleep in ONE bed and are charged 10 RMB per night. But despite the fact that many teachers don't have school yet, the company is still recruiting more teachers. I'm just wondering where they will DUMP those new recruits when they come.

For anyone wishing to have your passport mishandled and used to import cars from Japan, please sign the completely meaningless contract this company offers. Currently based in Changchun and also known as Tianshu, they misuse passports and frequently claim they are perfectly within their rights to hold YOUR PASSPORT as insurance against a private debt. They also use scare tactics for anyone wishing to leave due to their (the company's) failure to fulfil the contract. Oh, they also will tell their teachers that they have special rights to change the visa you hold if you decide to leave the company - not true.
Avoid this company and the glistening (albeit mispelled and gramatically retarded) reviews issued by mysterious identities who have never been heard of by the (often mentally deficient) employees.
Trev.