> Well said.

> I would like to add... I'm curious. Why do you spend so much time on
> the ESL teachers board, when it seems like you are only here to pick
> on every detail that is said. It seems as if yo are looking to fight.
> Do you have a personal problem with a foreigner that you know? I
> think it would be good for you to deal with the root problem, instead
> of gathering mistaken conclusions from the teachers that want to chat
> here.

> Just my humble opinion. I appreciate your views as a Chinese person,
> but if you could try to understand what life is like for foreigners
> here, maybe you wouldn't end up so offended all the time.

> Take Care. Looking forward to hearing you positive comments in the
> future.

> j.a.t

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Dear j.a.t.,

A personal problem is NOT my difficulty ... NAY! NAY! 'Tis merely the refusal on the part of so many of the more-educated citizens of the PRC to open their minds long enough to admit a mere POSSIBILITY of the veracity of an opposing philosophy. Hell's bells, Man, well-schooled individuals (especially those of us who are over sixty -- and I AM!) certainly do NOT travel to China for the "ultra-high" salaries or even those
"splendiferous accommodations" customarily offered. Quite to the contrary, we are dedicated to distributing the worldly knowledge that so many of us have acquired over the years. NOT that you must agree with everything imparted; it's merely that we BEG you to at least LISTEN and CONSIDER!
"Mistaken conclusions?" Of course, there's nothing at all wrong with having those. After all, that's an instructor's "stock and trade," as it were! It's only that the closed-mindedness we regularly enounter on this board tends to irk the hell out of me and many of my colleagues. Ergo, my "classroom!"

I find that your final statement befuddles me somewhat. Granted, I may not be situated in China at this very moment, I have worked and resided there in the recent past (Beijing and Shenzhen). Ergo, I am QUITE familiar with the conditions facing foreigners on that front. Granted, China is NOT the UK or USA, there ARE certain steps that could be administered by the Government to guarantee a happier and more comfortable stay for its QUALIFIED "guest-specialists," while, at the same time, weed out those foreign adventurers who have come to China 'just for the ride.'

Dear Fellow, you seem like a reasonable person. Can you not see that, even from this perch in my present, far-off locale, I have not forgotten the struggle faced by so many foreign teachers -- beginning with the very credibility of many of the agencies that recruited them, right down to the validity of the contracts they have signed. NOT that all teachers are either qualified or well-intentioned, it all comes down to the necessity
of a greater joint effort. Today is Labor Day here in the USA ... so, I've been a 'good boy' and made my speech!

Cheers.

I think you missed the point, shao lin

> Non-readible writing for confronting the issue is lame.

> Shao Lin

> Sir. I am a visiting professor to universities abroad. I tend to keep
> my mouth shut regarding cultural issues of countries, I visit and
> work. I find racist and low life, some foreigners coming to my
> country and keep making all kind of (public) negative comments. Learn
> to respect if you are visiting somebody else's country.

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Sir,

Albeit you may have made a valid point in declaring many foreign "guests" as racist and stemming from a lower cultural order, I seriously doubt that the gentelman's communiqu suggested anything of a racially biased nature. Moreover, in my many years of international travel, I have been confronted by horses' gluteus maximi such as yourself ... those who, despite their advanced educational achievements, are, ironically enough, too damned ignorant (or jealous) to view life in any other way than their own.

Please forgive my arrogance, sir, but allow me to suggest that, while you are busy observing due respect for the cultures of those countries in which you are employed, you might also render at least a microscopic portion of that regard to the more intelligent of us "foreign devils" who are bold enough to suggest something departed from the status quo ... especially if that critique is generated by what has been well proven to cause us extreme discomfort.

Cheers

> ===========================================================

> Sir,

> I shall most assuredly keep your demand well in mind. Now, please
> listen to mine:

>
> *&%#@!&*+&^%@#!!@#!%&^*+=&#@!&*%#@!#*+*&$#@!%^!!+_=+&%#@!&!!+*&%#!@!!&%!!

> Got that? I trust I wasn't speaking TOO rapidly.

Non-readible writing for confronting the issue is lame.

Shao Lin

> Dear Incheon,

> pray forgive me, but i know not of what you speak when you describe
> to me an entity in the possessive second person with the phrase
> "your holy book". i have yet to find any practical use for
> the pages of any holy book and in particular the one you mention
> whichever it might be, though the application of some of those might
> perhaps allow me some momentary relief from the rather unfortunate
> crevastic sliminess to which i was forced to allude in a previous
> response.

> however, i do thank you for your time in providing me with the
> opportunity to peruse this rather wandering prose. is it by ginsberg
> perchance? i have been looking for ways to control the grandkiddies
> and now thanks to your generosity have become totally convinced that
> where the ignorant are concerned, fear and confusion is definitely
> the way to go.

> yours faithfully,

> Miss Tick.

Let me guess, you must be a pagan. If at any time you feel too out of control (fear, confusion) RUN....... the holy warriors and crusaders are coming after you.

Incheon
PS: are you still a Wiccan.

> Dear Bhudda,

> To test your theory/hypothesis/dogma, I've been sitting here thinking
> "snail" for the last 10 minutes and so far have noticed no
> hint of a shell starting to appear on my back...though my scoliosis
> hasn't improved at all i must say - and i do detect the manifestation
> of a certain sliminess in the crevices, but that could just be one of
> those personal hygiene "issues" as the young people say
> these days, and i really must get around to changing the bathwater.

> to achieve the best results, should i perhaps be thinking in Tibetan
> or some other tongue of that most philosophically and spiritually
> superior region? and if so what would be the most appropriate
> translation for the phrases "lotto winner" and
> "obscenely wealthy layabout"?

> many thanks in advance,

> your most humble disciple,

Miss Tick,

I see, Bhudda is not your savior. Maybe you want to be more like the woman described in your Holy Book (please see below Miss).

Incheon
PS: Amen

Proverbs 31"Who can find a virtuous woman?

for her price is far above rubies.

The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

She will do him good and no evil all the days of her life.

She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

She is like the merchants' ship; she bringeth her food from afar.

She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a
portion to her maidens.

She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are
clothed with scarlet.

She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to coem.

She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord,
she shall be praised.

Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates."

Proverbs 31:10-31

> What we think, we become.
> Buddha

Dear Bhudda,

To test your theory/hypothesis/dogma, I've been sitting here thinking "snail" for the last 10 minutes and so far have noticed no hint of a shell starting to appear on my back...though my scoliosis hasn't improved at all i must say - and i do detect the manifestation of a certain sliminess in the crevices, but that could just be one of those personal hygiene "issues" as the young people say these days, and i really must get around to changing the bathwater.

to achieve the best results, should i perhaps be thinking in Tibetan or some other tongue of that most philosophically and spiritually superior region? and if so what would be the most appropriate translation for the phrases "lotto winner" and "obscenely wealthy layabout"?

many thanks in advance,

your most humble disciple,

Miss Tick.

Wait a minute guys. Old Mr. is not in Asia anymore for obvious reasons. So WHO CARES if he is arrogant or he is buying over the net prescription medicine from Canada.

Incheon
PS: lol to good health!

> ===========================================================

> Sir,

> I shall most assuredly keep your demand well in mind. Now, please
> listen to mine:

>
> *&%#@!&*+&^%@#!!@#!%&^*+=&#@!&*%#@!#*+*&$#@!%^!!+_=+&%#@!&!!+*&%#!@!!&%!!

> Got that? I trust I wasn't speaking TOO rapidly.

That's an arrogant teacher... lol

Sir. I am a visiting professor to universities abroad. I tend to keep my mouth shut regarding cultural issues of countries, I visit and work. I find racist and low life, some foreigners coming to my country and keep making all kind of (public) negative comments. Learn to respect if you are visiting somebody else's country.

Truth is always the enemy, which is why they expends so much time and effort to eliminate dissent based on truth.