I've in fact only become interested in luxury watches since 2015. I was walking around Carindale Shopping Centre in Brisbane one day and walked past a jewelry shop. I stopped to have a look.

I've always liked nice leather shoes and Birkenstocks however.

As for MGTOW, some people adopt bits and pieces of it rather than becoming radical MGTOW types. To me, MGTOW is a good option in 2017.

These beta male types who grovel to women and buy them meals and gifts and who become sub-servient to women are just pathetic.

You are right, rejecting and ignoring women, especially, in my case, Western and Chinese women, is a good thing.

One thing I like about luxury watches and jewelry is that when a woman says "nice watch", "nice chains", I can say, "Yep, too bad for you, you'll never be able to afford it". Or when though annoying touts in Pattaya try to sell me a watch I just say, "I don't want it, I've got the real thing".

MGTOW is basically about men rejecting the social expectations of women and society.

No, you don't have to marry women. You don't need to have kids. You don't owe women a living.

You don't have any responsibility to buy women houses and cars.

Beta male wimps who are nice to women and take them on dates and buy them gifts are in fact, in a way, abusers.

These women will never have any self-worth or independence whilst these fools continue to exist.