Can you prove that 98 per cent of them are not?

Here is an idea for lazy women: Study hard, get a decent fucking job, don't marry, support yourself with your own money.

If all women did this there would be no problems.

Men do not owe women anything and have no moral or financial obligation to help women.

Everything should be about personal and individual responsibility, that's it.

Is there a source to the "98 per cent of mainland Chinese women are freeloading parasites"?

Yes, I would say that 98 per cent of mainland Chinese women are freeloading parasites who don't want to work. And the thing is, they prove it on a daily basis with all their idiotic TV dating programs.

Yes, I would say that 98 per cent of mainland Chinese women are freeloading parasites who don't want to work. And the thing is, they prove it on a daily basis with all their idiotic TV dating programs.

Having said that, you may find a few good ones in Shanghai or Beijing with their own apartments and good jobs.

Taipei is the place to go if you want a Chinese GF. I've been there twice this year on business, totally different to China.

You may have done ok with your wife, believe me, you are in a very tiny minority of "lucky" ones.

I doubt the people who need to grow up on this board are so "young". You and Silverboy are the only mature ones. The others may have wives and kids and they still are children in adults' bodies.

Sociopaths are inherently immature and childlike, it is one of their surface personality traits. They will call you a jerk when they are being a jerk to your face. Call you a racist when they're being a racist. Call you immature or crazy when what they are writing or doing shows them doing exactly just that.

Again, they live life for themselves. They don't contribute anything to others. All they do is eat a lot of food, pass a lot of gas, and shuffle off the mortal coil.

You have a mortgage, scouselad? Oh, I forgot, you are not included in the 1% you call "idiots". Just exactly what career path did you take in your own country, Thatcher's Child? Did you have a proper job before you decided to come to China? Did Silverboy ever have a proper job? Modelling at college then construction work. His income is not earned.

You and your master Silverboy are so self-opinionated, you just believe everything you say is true. Unfortunately, there are a few sycophants on here who support you. One is on food stamps, living in his mother's basement in good 'ole U.S.A. The other has just recovered from a heart attack. Strange really as he posted on here about healthy eating. But when the genius Silverboy said that Chinese women would not help you if you were ill, did this poster challenge that view as he is married to a Chinese woman and they have a child together? No, he did not, which proves he is desperate to be part of the little group.

I suppose it makes you feel good to rubbish other people. Just remember that there are several posters here who have had enough of your crap and will not sit back and ignore it.

Many a young person on this board needs to grow the hell up. Once you have a mortgage, a real
career, kids etc you will probably put national/global politics far down your list of
priorities.

It is you who needs to grow up and stop looking to that loser Silverboy for guidance.

Unless Trump passes away due to natural causes, or is killed accidentally/murdered in the meantime!

It's a waste of time to think if about national and global politics if you can't really do anything about it. Those people who want to get rid of Trump can do so in 2020 but they need to vote.

A lot of the Democrats complain about Trump but many of them did not bother voting because they thought Hillary was a "sure thing". Ain't no such thing except death and taxes!

I tend to find that the labels get thrown about a little too easily. Being the slightest bit conservative doesn't automatically make one a Nazi or Alt-Right or whatever the latest slur is.

Likewise, calling anybody that dares to drink a beer other than Bud Light/Pabst Blue Ribbon and watch soccer rather than baseball or NASCAR a 'Commie' can be equally as jarring.

There seems to be an attitude of 'you're with us or them' in the world right now; yet I suspect that there's a silent majority that just want to get on with their lives rather than partake in such bullshit.

There's many a person back in the UK that would consider themselves to be socialist due to industrial roots, yet can't stand the hard left's political correctness that ensures that they are condemned if they speak out the slightest bit against immigration.

There's also many a person that consider themselves to be more right wing, but haven't got a massive urge to burn all the gays and actually have a fair few non-white friends.

Many a young person on this board needs to grow the hell up. Once you have a mortgage, a real career, kids etc you will probably put national/global politics far down your list of priorities.

There was an interesting excerpt of a piece of work that I read about the hard left the other day; I'm not sure that I could possibly admire the guy who wrote it (he's pretty much undoubtedly a domestic terrorist), but the points are worth considering - (taken from:http://justnotsaid.blogspot.ca/2012/10/ted-kaczinski.html - I can't be bothered to dig further and reference properly):

Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types.

FEELINGS OF INFERIORITY

By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strictest sense but a whole spectrum of related traits: low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents of "guy," "dude" or "fellow." The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights advocates have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and insist on its replacement by "animal companion." Leftist anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the word "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)

Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual, white males from middle-class families.

Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals), or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit it to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc., ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology).

Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.

Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative", "enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser....

Modern leftist philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftist philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e. failed, inferior). The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been brought up properly.

[The leftist's] feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself....

Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.

If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.

We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.

Due to that unfulfilled need to make themselves feel superior, you could trick many a leftist into sounding like a bigot by deliberately leading them on; eventually they will end up stating that those supposedly oppressed people are in some way inferior to themselves.

Really...who cares what Turnoi has to say about anything? He provides a really good model for people on how not to live your life. For all his supposed PH.Ds and religious background he is worse than the weasels who post on this site talking about how great china or other countries are. Someone who works hard cleaning dishes and ends up running a few restaurants imho are much more qualfied to speak on the wisdom of life than he ever will be, no matter what ethnic/religious/cultural background they may come from.

God you have a long memory- a long and not too reliable one it seems. You seem convinced you have special qualifications to hate China- qualifications you were born with. You referred to beans spilled regarding your ethnicity but nobody else but you has referred to your origins on this forum so what are you moaning about?) Just popped in to cause trouble, eh?

Really...who cares what Turnoi has to say about anything? He provides a really good model for people on how not to live your life. For all his supposed PH.Ds and religious background he is worse than the weasels who post on this site talking about how great china or other countries are. Someone who works hard cleaning dishes and ends up running a few restaurants imho are much more qualfied to speak on the wisdom of life than he ever will be, no matter what ethnic/religious/cultural background they may come from.

When I was posting on here regularly from 2009 to 2014 he would always appropriate my ideas, add a few words of his own and come back lecturing me on how these ideas are not understood by me, but since he was saying this it made him the authority. That is the typical Thieving act of scumbags who have a good intellect, nothing more than that. He shared my ethnic background with the Taffy poster without telling me this as well and tried to cover it up by asking me to change my email account so I won't get harrassed by the Taffy poster. What a joke.

The Turnoi's and Taffy's of this world will always see non-whites as in need of guidance and forever looking to them as makeshift little gods. Well, I have to say that makes them a lot worse than weasels in terms of honesty and integrity. Silverboy is the only one on here who gives the chinese and other non-white places moral responsibility. That is what make the world a better place, and not with intellectual sociopaths who go around pretending they know everything whilst they waste everyone's time.

By the way I noticed a poster calling himself "David" responding negatively to Turnoi's posts. I just want to put it on record that said poster is not me. David is in fact my real name, but this poster who responds very briefly to everything Turnoi says somehow kinows me personally and pines for differing opinions.

It is not a "supposed mentality of entitlement", it is real entitlement.

I have pointed out many times on here that if a Chinese woman expects a man to provide a house and car for her as a condition of marriage, then she has a severe entitlement mentality. She is extremely lazy to boot. I will admit there are a very small percentage of Chinese women who are not like this.

On top of that, a women marrying for a house and a car is prostituting herself, which many people on here fail to realize.

I know for sure that there are and have been men on this board who have married Chinese women and bought houses for them.

These same people get "offended" by prostitution when they themselves are in marriage/sex for money relationships.

I will say that someone who is in in a 50/50 relationship in every aspect is in a genuine relationship.

That means paying 50 per cent of a mortgage also. However, most Chinese women expect men to buy them an apartment outright, they don't want to contribute anything financially toward it.

That is just laziness, prostitution, and an entitlement mentality, nobody can argue otherwise.

Good, thank you.

YouTube and Reddit are probably better for teachers from other countries, but it always tends to be newbies that don't really know the country; although there was a cool YouTube channel ran by a geeky looking black guy in Japan and although he'd definitely still get confused about stuff in Japan, he could actually speak a bit of the language etc.

As for Beth, no, I had no part in trying to "ruin her life". I am not that vindictive. Sure, I did not like her but she has done nothing personal to me. I have no idea who was trying to cause trouble for Beth.

You didn't. You merely disagreed with her; it was some low-life that was responsible.

Welcome back, SB!
To make a long story short: Bashing training centers on here for what they are would most likely be more appropriate topics than your "adventures" in the world of hookers. The latter topic is your own, personal and private matter. Keep it private, and everything will be fine.

Well I wouldn't stand for some geezer saying that to me on a forum which should cover all aspects of the ft's-world (including retired ft's) You'd have to pay for a smart-arse comment like that. Bloody cheek!! However, I do realise you have your own way of doing things- LondonGirl was proof of that.

Think I can manage that.

The last line is actually good advice. Yes, don't mess around with Asian visas these days, do not work on tourist visas and do not overstay if you are a tourist.

I know the Thai government is seriously cracking down on visa violators. Seems the Chinese are also.

Not sure if there are people with "multiple handles" on here, and I doubt I am not the only one who likes nice watches and jewelry. I was looking at some silver chains yesterday, I love silver, and a few watches.

I just bought a very expensive Seiko and I'm going to purchase a top line Oris soon, will set me back 3500 AUD, however I usually get 15-20 per cent discount, but still, ouch!

I need to stop spending so much, I've spend a lot this year, at least I paid cash for everything so no credit card debt.

I forget to mention that I think someone found me on We Chat using the "People Nearby" function. I think you can find people within 20 km range.
So the school owner probably did that and told his friends. The only explanation I have.

Just like Dave's Cafe, the ESLTB is a business. I am guessing it was an editorial decision not related to training centers or 'left-wing pc types'. If it was editorial, it was a good decision as you are tainting the Board with your "porn" and prejudiced views. Don't think the people who encourage you are really your friends, they are not. You were indiscriminate in your attacks on people who didn't know and even before you were removed, nothing had changed.

Reading some recent posts, two posters on here agreed to meet at a wedding in Inner Mongolia - just read the exchange of comments.

You complained recently that the Board would not publish more recent photos of you and your hookers in Thailand. Is that not 'entitled'. The Board did you a big favor. You left quite a trail over the years of comments and pictures, which in the wrong hands might have caused you a big problem. Very easy nowadays to copy and paste or screen dump and send them to a newspaper newsdesk. You know the sort of thing:the enemy of my friend is my enemy. Actions have consequences. We are confident we know the identity of the person who tried to ruin Beth's (Golden Girl) life by actions that arose as a result of her challenging the poster " hierarchy" on here. It was a callous act, but we don't believe you are that nasty.

Go on and do what you do. Put your 10 years in China behind you and enjoy your life, but keep your sordid tales, and prejudice off this site. Your fan club I'm sure will follow you on other sites. I do not want further chat with you on here so will not respond to you.

Well, looks like I'm not "welcome" here anymore but I need to reply because this is
especially in regard to me. That other bloke talks about political correctness, I 'm not
interested in that for now.

I really need to set the record straight.

1) I did not delete my own posts, Either the moderators did themselves or because of
"complaints" from left wing PC types who read posts on here. I doubt
personally it was Chinese school owners as I have not been in China recently ( not since
July/August 2015 ) so I can't directly cause trouble for them like I used to.

2) As for Chinese students and what I said about them, why would I be concerned about that? I
have not been in China for a considerable amount of time and won't be returning. All I
know is that Chinese people in ESL are more aware of me than I originally thought. If I
am in Australia how can these posts have any effect on me? All I said was that it's ok
to have sexual relationships with students 20 years old or over as long as they are not
in your own classes. Now, I don't even care about that. Why should puritanical prudes
and conservative types tell two consenting adults what they should or should not do? I
never cared about what Chinese people think, you think I would delete my own posts out
of "respect" for them?

3) The fact is that more than a few Chinese training centre owners DO KNOW who I am. Yes,
just from a username they won't know me. They would have seen my pics on here and on
other websites though. They are my REAL PICS and always have been. I don't hide my
identity like some other faceless cowards who post on here. If a training centre owner
did not see posts and pictures a Chinese teacher or an FT working for them probably did.

4) The death threats are real and I got the first on my old Nokia mobile phone in April 2014
from an owner of a New Oriental franchise. A female Chinese teacher threatened me first,
and then the New Oriental ( XDF ) boss. The threats were in Chinese and English. I in
turn threatened the New Oriental boss that there would be serious consequences for him
and his family if he did not back off. I told him I would "send the Koreans"
after him if he threatened me again. Guangxi FT's know what I'm talking about.

5) In July 2015 myself and some ex-pat friends of mine were staked by a crazy Chinese girl
who I confronted after hearing her say on her phone "we have to wait until they are
on their own". I've told this story before, twice on here. Now I don't know if that
Chinese girl in Chao Yang, Nanning was connected to a training school or not, I can't
prove that. A strange incident nevertheless. Also, around the same time I got a friend
request on We Chat which I accepted and it was a death threat from a school owner,
"You are SB" ?? "We are losing lot's of money because of you".
"The end is coming for you". How they got the We Chat ID I don't know. In
October 2016 I got another request on We Chat whilst I was here in Brisbane. A similar
threat. Another We Chat threat from China in March 2017 I was in Pattaya at the time.

This info should clear things up. I don't have We Chat now, not since September 10. I will
start using "Line" soon as that is the Thai equivalent of We Chat.

Well, looks like I'm not "welcome" here anymore but I need to reply because this is especially in regard to me. That other bloke talks about political correctness, I 'm not interested in that for now.

I really need to set the record straight.

1) I did not delete my own posts, Either the moderators did themselves or because of "complaints" from left wing PC types who read posts on here. I doubt personally it was Chinese school owners as I have not been in China recently ( not since July/August 2015 ) so I can't directly cause trouble for them like I used to.

2) As for Chinese students and what I said about them, why would I be concerned about that? I have not been in China for a considerable amount of time and won't be returning. All I know is that Chinese people in ESL are more aware of me than I originally thought. If I am in Australia how can these posts have any effect on me? All I said was that it's ok to have sexual relationships with students 20 years old or over as long as they are not in your own classes. Now, I don't even care about that. Why should puritanical prudes and conservative types tell two consenting adults what they should or should not do? I never cared about what Chinese people think, you think I would delete my own posts out of "respect" for them?

3) The fact is that more than a few Chinese training centre owners DO KNOW who I am. Yes, just from a username they won't know me. They would have seen my pics on here and on other websites though. They are my REAL PICS and always have been. I don't hide my identity like some other faceless cowards who post on here. If a training centre owner did not see posts and pictures a Chinese teacher or an FT working for them probably did.

4) The death threats are real and I got the first on my old Nokia mobile phone in April 2014 from an owner of a New Oriental franchise. A female Chinese teacher threatened me first, and then the New Oriental ( XDF ) boss. The threats were in Chinese and English. I in turn threatened the New Oriental boss that there would be serious consequences for him and his family if he did not back off. I told him I would "send the Koreans" after him if he threatened me again. Guangxi FT's know what I'm talking about.

5) In July 2015 myself and some ex-pat friends of mine were staked by a crazy Chinese girl who I confronted after hearing her say on her phone "we have to wait until they are on their own". I've told this story before, twice on here. Now I don't know if that Chinese girl in Chao Yang, Nanning was connected to a training school or not, I can't prove that. A strange incident nevertheless. Also, around the same time I got a friend request on We Chat which I accepted and it was a death threat from a school owner, "You are SB" ?? "We are losing lot's of money because of you". "The end is coming for you". How they got the We Chat ID I don't know. In October 2016 I got another request on We Chat whilst I was here in Brisbane. A similar threat. Another We Chat threat from China in March 2017 I was in Pattaya at the time.

This info should clear things up. I don't have We Chat now, not since September 10. I will start using "Line" soon as that is the Thai equivalent of We Chat.

Theoretically, that can happen. I'd feel humiliated if I allowed that to happen. The point is that people of either sex or race are able to interact on equal terms. One party buying watches or flats for another in return for love or sex is a one- way road that cannot work or only work for a pretty short time. Being able to mutually give and take is the way to go.

"I have a lot of sympathy for SB's dislike of gold-diggers; however, the truth is there are FT's around quite capable of attracting Chinese women who buy the watches and flats for them. "

Do you know what a one-dollar store is? Shops with low prices will attract all kinds of people. Ten-dollar shops will certainly attract those who can afford to pay a bit more for items of higher quality. The question is not whether Silverboy was allowed to go too far. The question is whether a board like this is for people with a preference for one-dollar shops or for (real) teachers and whether topics on hookers or brothels or similar topics is appropriate for ordinary people with a preference for ten-dollar shops.

One's own preference for women and life-style in general, in whatever way it my be, is a private matter. You normally wouldn't talk about it in public to anyone not known in person to you. I personally wouldn't do such a thing either.

I don't think that Silverboy should be banned and that he would be welcome to post on here on anything with the exception of those relating to those posts of his previous favorite topics.

This board has deteriorated to a one-dollar shop level more recently.

"He was allowed to go too far and trussed up like a turkey- it was like something out of 'House of Cards' "

Well of course SB didn't have all his posts deleted. Here's one where he was being conciliatory in return. SB has shown that he's prepared to listen and would have done so again given the chance. He was allowed to go too far and trussed up like a turkey- it was like something out of 'House of Cards'

That is quite a conciliatory post and a peace offering. I am quite prepared to tone down the content of my posts in future if it is offensive to some readers. I think Fifi mentioned that I said I "don't forgive or forget". Not sure exactly if she was referring to me but I have forgiven plenty of people in my life. However, no I don"t forget. Fifi said she generally thinks I am happy, and don't get angry, that's true, but I am prone to short bursts of anger. I will also tell you I am very angry with mainland Chinese people because of two very bad things that happened to me when I lived there. Maybe I can forgive the one day.

I will admit that some of my posts that did appear on here and did not appear on here were offensive to women. I am opposed to over the top feminism, so it makes me a bit angry sometimes. Basically I don't like Women's Day because I have been asked by women I hardly even know to buy them gifts on this day before. Today I received no requests.

My advice to women on here is to condemn gold diggers whenever you come across them. When you meet new men you like be genuine and don't expect any material gain from them. You really will gain respect if you do this.

"Wrong. Many people who post on here do strongly support Chinese training centers. They have been doing it for years. Do you know why? It's the only place where they can find employment and get a job as a "manager" and so forth. They are unemployable in their countries of origin."

Is that true? You know this for certain? Or are you just repeating what has been said before?

I was accused of bring intolerant and yet people like you can write about "second rate individuals" with barely a thought.

As you are giving me advice on thinking I will return the favor. Don't blindly swallow all of the stuff posted on here in a form of "hero worship". There are decent people everywhere, you just have to know where to look.

It may well be a dirty business but just how many of these sordid places have gone out of business as a direct result of Silverboy's antics. Let's not forget that his first job in China was in such an establishment before he saw the light and moved on to universities/colleges.

Being a manager of such a fast food restaurant is not actually a bad job, no matter how much Turnoi used to knock it. I guess that he just heavily values the prestige of the job, but it can be rewarding for those who feel no shame in working hard.

Even if you've worked your way up from being a cashier, waitress or even cleaner, you've got to learn a fair few business skills to keep that place ticking over nicely. What's more, if they then get promoted to store manager or above, they'll most likely be getting paid much more than most low level academic staff.

The people that usually have to work in training centres indeed couldn't get into such employment. What's worse, it can be easy money if you work out how to lazily plan all the lessons etc, therefore training centres tend to attract such individuals like flies around shit.

Yes, anybody who likes luxury watches must be Silverboy.

He is only person in Queensland, Australia who likes luxury watches.

You take idiocy to a new level.

You should watch the Archie Luxury channel on You Tube.

You would learn a lot.

If he has any common sense he will stay away from here and keep a low profile.

And what would he have to fear from people like you exactly?

Probably not all that much. As for 'those people he abused;' they have a tendency to believe that they can decide what is right or wrong, what can or cannot be said, therefore it was great that he'd regularly put them in their place.

Well that's quite a good post. I think there may well be a few well-heeled Chinese ladies in Shanghai and Taipei and Hong Kong who would be prepared to buy luxury watches for their well endowed white Western boyfriends. I'd settle for a nice Oris Automatic or a 2000 dollar Seiko. We can't financially strain these Chinese gals too much even if they have deep pockets. That just would not be fair would it?

Poor old SB up the road ( highway ) from me down here on the Gold Coast. Only 70 km's from me somewhere in Brisbane's mighty suburban sprawl. Might meet him by accident at Pacific Fair one day. He could have had a wealthy and educated Chinese gal friend buying all these lovely watches for him but is instead using up his own cash reserves.

I agree, SB chose to stay in Nanning for so long where women are uneducated and broke as a joke. He missed out.

Mum Fifi is telling you to behave properly, dear Silverboy. If you don't comply, you will end up in a brothel washing dishes...hahahhahahaha

" Let's hope SB returns to lord over the canopy once more."

If he has any common sense he will stay away from here and keep a low profile.

You may see entertainment value in his rants but the people he abused are glad to see the back of him. And these people are not owners of training centers but ordinary decent people who came to this site looking for advice. Shouted-down, called "scum" from someone with a degree in Fashion Studies.

Yes, whatever you say Turnoi. You could always go for a Seiko Presage Automatic, called the "poor man's Grand Seiko" if you didn't want to spend thousands of dollars. I've got one on order, lay-but, it's beautiful, put a deposit on it, 700 dollars, had to pay 25 per per cent up front, pick it up next week.

Sad to say, if your only option in life is to spend all your money on a woman you are the biggest loser, but I know you are not into women these days.

Another non-quality post from a stalker.

Tyrants are people of low intellect and normally not fit for taking over responsibilities in national or international leadership. It's only the total failure of the former elites of pretend liberals like Hilary Clinton that allows them to come to power. Hilary did not answer any of the questions that were of interest to the average American citizen. Instead, she never left her Lyons and Rotary Club armchair. People will turn to those tyrant leaders with low intellect when previous elites failed to make the best of their intellect and to remain honest and consistent.

"France, Netherlands, Austria and another one that I forgot. Seems that they saw what damages tyrants are doing to the US and decided against it for Europe".

Two independent clauses can be combined with a semi-colon OR a conjunction. They many NOT be combined with a comma: "comma-splice".

Well, good to hear from you again Turnoi. How is life on the beach in a Philippines tropical paradise?

I'm just saying, if a man had a choice between spending 8000 dollars on a Chinese wife or 8000 dollars on himself
what should he choose?

It seems that you are not a very logical or rational individual.

Self-gratification using one's own financial resources should be the leading priority.

Spending money on wives is a waste of financial firepower that could be put to better use indulging ones own desires, needs, and fantasies.

You probably learned the hard way when you were married!

I have to agree. Just because some bloke is in his late forties and going bald and likes Pattaya and hookers it does not make him a bad person.

In fact, I think SB is more interesting than most of the boring and generic cookie-cutter posters on this board.

He is flamboyant, even Turnoi used to be, but he is just a washed up has been these days.

One reassuring trait which belonged to SB, Fifi, was that he didn't actually mind if you had different viewpoints from him. He was a very democratic poster, don't you think? I can sense your fear I believe that a regime change could produce tyrant posters. The lights are going out all over Europe.

You should stop your stalking of other people on here.

I don't know about Turnoi and the issues you may have with that person. But I am sure that whoever this person is, he or she would not feel so happy to be associated with someone who condones sexist and useless talk of brothels, hookers and similar. In this, you are guilty by association. Take a hike!

P.S.: There seem to be some ongoing changes on this board - several users have agreed to stick to a line of reasonable communication among themselves. Folks like you refusing to adhere to such principles of communication may soon be history like your sexist misogynist buddy Silverboy.

In a free nation you are entitled to your own opinion and lifestyle. But of what relevance is your preference of a Seiko over a Chinese wife? Do we really need to know?

I think telling you what toilette paper I was using yesterday at the place where all people are equal could perhaps be more relevant and interesting. Well, I will tell you in depth next time,lol.

"I'd rather have that Seiko instead of a wasting the same amount on a Chinese wife. "

Hi Turnoi

Nothing wrong with brothels and hookers as long as they are 18+. If this is a teachers board it should be just that, not a board of morals. Pedophile activity however is immoral and also a criminal offence.

I feel some posters on here are from the religious right and want to impose their fairy in the garden "moral fortitude" on others.

Nothing wrong with beers and ashtrays and being unshaven either.

Sorry I didn't know we were politicians; and, I regret to have confused you.

A semicolon cannot be used in combination with a conjunction.

Sorry I didn't know we were politicians; and, I regret to have confused you.

Thousands of bottles of beer, full and dirty ashtrays in your shabby Hohhot apartment must have made you forget where you "went". No wonder you were rude when you were drunk.

Mistake! Never went there.

Wow. Generally when people quote from other sources in their comments, those comments relate in some way to the quotes being used. My quotes add nothing to your argument, which is hard to follow at times.

Asking for unconditional respect on an anonymous online forum is like asking a politician to answer the question posed.

Your internet "love" is an illusion. Can't you find anyone in real life in your environment instead? You must be a poor person with personal problems!

Crap English again! Go back to school, boy!

Debate? You are the best example that debate is useless and impossible. I am tired of your crappy English. Incomprehensible.

"It does seem that you are on a mission which is sad for any debate on forums".

aren't some of us rare forum creatures

Articles are rarely used with abstract nouns: ...of such value deserves praise.

Yes, some of us are rare and of such values that deserve to be praised. Dr. Turnjakunen is such a unique multiple headed snake that's been rattling the board for ages.

Articles are rarely used with abstract nouns: ...of such value deserves praise.

In memorium of Grand Sicko
Caring

You are the hypocrite because you ignore SB's misogynistic posts on purpose.

You did start it by questioning the relevance of Silverboy's "ejaculations". And I am glad you had the courage to do so. You also used the term 'Silverbitch' so I assumed you would be OK with a cretinous confrontational style and you proved my point.

Ok, I am new on here and I only got a chance to read the SB posts over about the last six months or so before deletion. I agree with some of what he says especially the entitlement mentality of women these days but still there can be stereotypes. For instance I know women in Taipei and Shanghai who bought apartments themselves without financial assistance from men or from their families. As for hiv and aids I think the jury is still out on that one. I feel it is not the threat it once was and many medical professionals are still in conflict over the issue. I agree with you about North Korea: a dangerous situation, the sb is wrong about that. I notice this sb is also into the mgtow movement. I don't really follow any movement but I'd say I adhere to mgtow philosophy. My personal opinion is that it is good for men to re-gain their confidence , assert themselves and start saving money again. A lot of men have been conned into thinking they must provide for women over the years and that is wrong. As for sb bragging about his sexual adventures in Pattaya I'd agree with you that that is tacky and tasteless. For sure men can go there and have a good time but to brag about it on the internet is tasteless. We will agree on some things and disagree on others.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/xxxtentacion-kodak-black-and-how-hip-hop-rewards-rappers-for-abusing-women

There's a lot worse people out there then posters like SB. In fact posters like SB, Turnoi and co are not bad human beings. Look at these female abusing animals!

You are an unfamiliar poster with a condescending tone and conclusion in your reply. While you may say that my post to you isn't different, you may not say that I've started it. It does seem that you are on a mission which is sad for any debate on forums.

You are right. I am intolerant of misogynists and racists. I am intolerant of people who objectify women in the way he does. And so should you be. I am also intolerant of people who choose not to look at the evidence - cancer and drinking; HIV and Aids and more recently those who he calls "libtards" because they don't see a military solution with possible deaths and injuries totaling 2 million for North Korea. He's also screaming anti-Chinese abuse in almost every post.

I made no direct comments on his choice of lifestyle or his marital status except in response to a one word reply. Of course marriage is not for everyone but why has he made it such a crusade? It's rather patronizing to believe that people can't think for themselves. I never stated he was a failure but pointed to some inconsistencies in his story. My post was about the appropriateness of his comments on what is a Teachers' Forum. And in that I have been vindicated because, for whatever reason, they have all been deleted. Is this a moral issue. I don't know so in Silverboy's words to many posters who challenged him - "just run along."

"Express your opinion but don't come across as being a fool. You come across as being
intolerant, naive, and lacking life experience."
You are a bit late with this. This question should first have been addressed to Silverboy. According to what I've been told he has abused people on here for almost a decade!

It seems that you want to criticize this Silverboy for his lifestyle choices. Are you intolerant of the choices of others?

If you think he is rude and crude then you have a right to say so but don't be all high and mighty and try to tell others what is moral or not moral.

You also think that men in their late forties, divorced and with property are failures and people who have ruined their lives.
In that case, millions of men have ruined their lives. Marriage and kids is not everyone's cup of tea. There are many other paths one can take in life.

Express your opinion but don't come across as being a fool. You come across as being intolerant, naive, and lacking life experience.

You are absolutely right. Playing that unashamed sex tourist against his love for animals sounds like the approach of a hypocrite, to say the least.

"An unashamed sex tourist who likes animals. Sounds like a good role-model for your children".

hypocracy?

SB, I miss you.

Well, you did not understand the 'In memorium post' did you?

I did notice you are a very frequent contributor. If this forum is a 'tool for teachers around the world' as you say, then don't you think the standard of all contributors needs to be improved? You can call me a cretin, I really don't mind. You can even swear if it makes you feel better. You do know where the term "handicapped" comes from don't you? For all animal lovers out there, it relates to horses and horse racing.

You are right that "we" (not sure who "we" are in this context) should do better. "Physician Heal Thyself" as the saying goes. Here's an example:

"Now, if you are incapable to comprehend this message, do f*ck off with all your names and the philharmonic that you've been using on!"

I hope you are not a native English speaker as we can make allowances for your writing skills. Sorry, to burst your bubble but I am not Turnoi, BTW.

"Oh, can you remember what topic is to be debated so that all those people get some sort of
aid here?"

The original topic was related to the removal of Silverboy's vulgar and abusive posts (Fifi asked where they had gone) and the comments around the Seiko watch. I can see that with Silverboy's posts removed and only the responses remaining, newcomers might have comprehension problems. It would probably be better if all the responses were removed as well. There's no need for further debate.

An unashamed sex tourist who likes animals. Sounds like a good role-model for your children.

It is to laugh................

SB is good and honest when it comes to rightful bashing of training centers and their crappy owners. That other side of his personality with respect to his posts on Chinese women, brothels and the like is disgusting and should not be tolerated on here. Being not a hypocrite and loving animals does not make his rants on Chinese women and his talk about brothels any better. This is a teacher's board, and why the hell should any of his input on marriage nonsense, brothels, hookers and the like have any place on here? Get a life, will you?!

I like Silverboy. He is no hypocrite. And he cares for animals.

When I first cast eyes on this wristwatch my long quiescent privates trembled in the manner they had that afternoon many years ago when Xiao Zhang followed me back to my teachers residence.